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  Forced taxation of branch overseer in Sweden ............

  by TheOldHippie in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the branch overseer in sweden has received a forced or increased income taxation by the authorities.

  they have estimated his personal income to the equivallent of 24,000$, which he has not declared.

  they have estimated this amount based upon the value of free living quarters, food and car.

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  I read this todAY, BUT DONT FORGET IT IS 1 APRIL, THINK THIS IS A BIGG JOKE.
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  Theocracy, "shuning", pedophiles, suicide...

  by XQsThaiPoes in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  okay this is a thread on church vs state.

  several topics has hit at once.

  lets mix and match.

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  Can d what we belive to think, deside if we can dfd some and ruin ther life, this is ofcourse depening on who the élders are, but i have been on eldermeeting where they say if someone stay over night, it is dfd reason, I CAN FORE MY LIFE NEVER UNDERSTAND THIS, when we have so hard ruels to judge pedofiles.

  The problem is that some are very hard on this, and dont care what peopel say, as I see it it must be the same proof to wrong doing TWO WITTNESES TO ADALULTERI as it is in sexabuse cases, can you explain fore a young man that an elder was not dfd despite he have done porneia, to a girl under 15 not even on reprof only steep down, but he must be dfd because he slepp over in a girls departmnet, and he svear on thet they do nothing, why so diffrent wuis ?
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  Theocracy, "shuning", pedophiles, suicide...

  by XQsThaiPoes in

  1. watchtower
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  okay this is a thread on church vs state.

  several topics has hit at once.

  lets mix and match.

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  Theocracy, "shuning", pedophiles, suicide...

  by XQsThaiPoes in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  okay this is a thread on church vs state.

  several topics has hit at once.

  lets mix and match.

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  happy man

  I must ask you a qestion

  Who can you explain that we dfd peopel as are under the same roof under the night, even if it is a third person ther, you dont need two wittneses to any wrongdoing, they can svear on that they have done nothing it dont help, it is as the elderbook say a dfd reason to do this, unbelevebel when it must be two witnese to rape or use chilren sexually.

  I have some exampel on this in my near family, and cong.

  Isnt this an evel polyci?
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  My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 4

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 1 .

  my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 2 .

  my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 3

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  briljant story Simon, myself is inn the same struggel try to show some bad things fore the cong.

  This site have been a bigg help fore me and some others i now, I have been deleted fore some time, hope this never happend again, this site have been like heeling fore mee, and it was just trerribel to bee denied acsess, fore what ever reason.

  thanks Simon that I am on the line again.

  this cane perhaps learn some both to you and mee, be carefull to dfd peopel from this bord, it hurts very much.

  Love from HM
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  My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 4

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 1 .

  my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 2 .

  my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 3

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  Interesting visit

  by Puternut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had a very interesting phone call today.

  a sister (fader) called me, and told me how she and her husband (ex elder) have been thinking about me, and talking late into the night about what they could do for me.

  they knew i was disfellowshipped now, and remembered the kindnesses i extended to them for many years while i was an elder.

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  Sometime reading here is like a knock out, i expiriens some very bad things long time ago, done oby a very beloved one.

  I was convinced that this was the only case in the word, and the person doing this was a bad person.

  When I start to raead on this sites, I have a bigg schock, never emaigen it was so comen.

  Ofcurse it is difficult widh things as happend 30-40 years ago, I now peopel who say they have served Jehova very carfully , and have pray on forgivness, and they feel in ther hart that jehova firgive them, problem is that they didnt now some peopel saw what they done and was badley hurt in the hart, how easy it is to se one of your heros do very bad things and later have to listen to talks and see how this person judge others under this long time, this kill your hart and is a very scitzofren situaition, as not many can deal widh widhout consekvenses deep inside,

  If some very heavy punishment must bee given fore siins done fore so long time ago is a tricky qestion, as I not are the man to decide what are wrong or wright, as we now cesar have decide that you have preskibaition time even fore murder, so pehraps this is the reason why it not is so heavy punishment fore siins done long time ago.

  If you read the bibel, I can see that hiding things are not so good, so ther is not any ´stoop timefore punishment as I see it, this can bee something to discuss, can we give punishment fore siin made long time ago?
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  Its about the enablers, not the abuse It's about the coverups not the crime

  by avishai in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this was a phrase spoken by a woman on abc news tonight, re: the catholic sex abuse scandal.

  i love this phrase, especially when applied to the jw's and their spokesmen's regular denials that they had anything to do with the abuse.

  no, they did'nt order their members to molest children.

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  From the inside I can tell that this issu is wworking like a cancer, evrone now how it works, even if they shot high about evel lies, evry JW now that if something bad happends in the cong you must talk to the elders and theu nmust keep it very confidential.

  If they say something els they lie.

  I have talk to many peopel about this , and evryone say it must come a change, soner or later.

  wuie from the inside

  Love HM
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  My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 3

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for me, the walls of the watchtower were not destroyed by a single giant cannon-ball but rather every brick had been weakened and suddenly the whole thing just 'collapsed'.. i've alwys been an avid reader and a firm believer that you can learn anything and everything from a good book.

  anyway, i was reading a bad book, the creation book, and this time things were different.. normally, the mere thought that the wts could "not be right" could not even be contemplated.

  it was like you can't even comprehend the concept or understand the question, least of all imagine it.. yet now, i read the book and things were screaming at me from the pages.

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  This is a very difficult thing, tell your wife what you read on internet, and she lost here bellife and perhaps joy in life, it is not so easy if you live in a very happy marrige to take avay a persons belife and hope fore the future, is it not a bigg risk to do so, perhaps she end up as unhappy and depressed, insted of happy about what she think is the truth, I am not so sure whats best to do, even if yoursel have evidence fore that the truth not is the truth.

  love HM
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  My Bio - and official hi to everyone.

  by Freddy Krueger in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, i've posted a few topics already and responded to a few.

  and spoke with some of you.

  well i just wanted to give you a little background on me.

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  happy man

  freddy.

  thanks fore your nice comments, It is not esy to now peopel on what they say on this bord, and you have not complitly understand my position, I grow upp as an JW I was even elder fore a long time, have to step down when because my children dent want to be JW, they are insted Bob Marley fans, not much better I must say. The one as was dfd is now back after many desapiontmenst.

  I can truhly say that I have never fall fore this brain wash as you think evry JW have, i never in my hart belive 100 % in this, but the life in JW was not so bad, and suits me good, it is not untill something happens in your life as things I told you and the religion is start to hurt you that you going to think. But I can tell you , I must think about whats best fore mee and my wife, and it is not to leave, because my lifesituaition this is not a posibility at all. Insted I have decide to stay inside, and fight, I tell evryone the mess we have here, and also in the meetings I comment about what happend, why things happend, I told evryone about this abuse coming upp in TV not anyone belived mee, the was schochked when it comes, I even tell our CO the history of Bill B, he have no clow how this started, but I told him,now he is Co in the circut where the men lived who was main story on tthe TV show, so he have not so good times I think. beacause he was a very nice person.

  One thing as have think a lot about is, why is why have the offender so much caring and we must forgive talk, when nowan care fore the vicktim, this is a very intrestin topic to discuss, it is the same all over . I my cong now it is so obvies you can almost take on it, one exampel when the person as do bad things need help evryone help, nowan putt two fingeraes together to help the wicktim, WHY THIS.

  Some say we dont want to bee victims ourself and thats why we push this avay and forget the vicktim, and have very much undestanding fore the offneder, as we now e ourself want forgivness if we do some bad things as broke upp unother mans family. what do you say ?

  Mynick name is more related to my family life then to my religion, but it is veri exiting times now and I think I do most help inside, just now to edjucate the members why things happend as they do.

  love HM

  Internet is a blessing and a voce fore the voceiess, perhaps from jehova or what you want to call the lord.

  Evry one can now tell the whole word if someone hurt them adn abuse them, marvelus and a very bigg gift isnt it?